Friday, June 12, 2009

Attics. Advanced class in thermodynamics

Ya right, I don't even know what thermodynamics means. What I do know is heat transfer is what all this green home energy conservation stuff is all about. Trying to keep cool and warm where it belongs.

Thinking about it, your gas, oil, electricity use is all increased by various losses or waste of hotness or coolness. So what's important is how.

Heat transfers three ways, conductive, ie finger touches hot pan, convection, air above the pan rises and cooler air replaces it to be warmed etc..., and radiative...you feel the heat from the pan at a distance but the air in between is a normal temperature.

It's that last one that is really tricky. Hot surfaces "radiate" heat via invisible waves traveling at the speed of light. If you have ever sat under a restaurant heater you may have noticed it warmed you although the air was still cool. That's radiative heating. So why do we care?

Well all of those radiant barrier ads on the radio and in your mailbox are about stopping the radiative effect of the sun on your roof. They basically stop the radiating of the heat into the attic. They promise huge energy savings for us Texans. But before you run to the phone to get some...lets make sure we understand the challenge.

Your attic is full of stuff, not only your camping gear you never use but also the insulation, rafters, duct work etc. The radiative heat, heats all of this stuff, just like you at the restaurant.

The insulation has a couple of jobs. First it keeps convection from taking all the cool from your ceiling and sending it out the vents. It also slows the heat in the attic from soaking through your ceiling into your living space. (Conduction).

So the air is hot, and the stuff is hot, and as long as the sun is shining on the roof the more radiative and conductive heat will be transferred into your attic. A simple shade tree drastically reduces these two heating effects. But, for those of us in the sun, where we make a mistake is thinking that some air vents and insulation are all we need.

Radiant barrier basically reflects the invisible heat energy back. Then your attic is only heated by conduction and convection. Air moves in, comes in contact with the "under roof" surface that has been warmed by the sun, heats up and rises. This goes on all day and into the night. If you have enough insulation, that heat never really gets to your cool ceiling before it cools off for the night.

So, we could keep piling insulation up in the attic. The air above it and all the stuff would be super hot. That heat will slowly seep further and further into the insulation where it will reach the topside of your ceiling and begin to warm the air in the room. The more insulation I have the longer it will take to become saturated with heat and the slower the heat transfer will be. Or, we can vent the attic and take advantage of convection to keep removing the hot air and replacing it with cooler outdoor air. If we move enough air we can keep the attic reasonable in air temp.

Combine those two and you have a pretty good system for keeping a handle on conductive and convection heat, but we are still at the mercy of the radiant heat. Add the radiant barrier and you have really cooled your attic and given your insulation a chance to do its job.

Taking this a logical step further, there are new homes being constructed with the radiant barriers and insulation under the roof with a sealed up attic and no insulation between the attic and the living area. The idea is that the attic is kept cool by the transfer of heat through the ceiling and conditioning the air. For all of us, it doesn't make sense to do that on an existing home.

Bottom Line - Radiant heat needs to be addressed, especially if your duct work runs through that space. Insulation and venting are good, but not good enough to really make a difference in your cooling bill. But you also can't believe those claims of 30% savings. The pros will tell you its 8 -12%.

It's time to call some contractors and find out what this stuff costs...it's 95 degrees today. Using a simple ROI calculation of...what's the cost of the barrier vs saving 10% on my electricity bill in the summer months should be a good starting point. If that looks reasonable then we will do the harder calculation of 10% of just the air conditioning portion of the electric bill per month.

6 comments:

  1. Mark, you may want to keep an eye out for ClimateWell's solar-powered heating-and-cooling systems. It's new technology from a young Swedish company that so far only seems to be available on the European market, their biggest market is in Spain. But they claim to have global ambitions so maybe their products will be available on the US soon.
    Here's a link:
    http://www.climatewell.com/index.html#/innovation/how-it-works

    Regards
    Mathias

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  2. It's interesting that they don't sell in the US, nor do their plans include the US so far???

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  3. They're still a small company. They have less than 50 employees and have sold only around 800 units since they started shipping them a few months ago. Their main market has been in Spain because of the state support to solar-based power, but they recently sold 200 units to Australia. They're looking to get into more markets and the US one is interesting now because of the economic stimulus package. They're looking for partners, but it's possible they will want to start with larger commercial buildings or new developments. But who knows, if you get in contact with a local air-con installer and encourage them to partner-up then maybe there's a chance you can get a discounted unit, like with that fancy sprinkler system... :)

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  4. How do you know so much about them? Are you an Investor?

    In my review of the site I couldn't find anything to go on for an ROI calculation. What do the units cost? Size? energy use etc...

    Based on everything available, the geothermal heat pump looks like the winner if you were replacing a system today.

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  5. > Are you an Investor?

    I wish! No I'm just a swede in the UK following the technology and environmental news. There's been a quite a few articles about ClimateWell (and other Swedish cleantech start-ups) at http://www.nyteknik.se (which of course is in Swedish so probably not of much help to you).

    > What do the units cost?

    Not seen any prices, but one of the articles at the link above indicates they've sold 400 units at a total price of 40m SEK, which would be around $12,500 (don't know if that includes the solar panels or installation). About the same my father payed for his geothermal heat pump a few years ago, but then that included drilling a 180 meeter deep hole into the bedrock... with some state support it might not be a bad deal, but without more details it's hard to tell.

    > Size?

    There's a picture here (think it's just the blue unit on the left):
    http://www.climatewell.com/Global/ImageBank/ClimateWell%20Demo%20House/ClimateWell_Demo_House_Madrid_3.jpg

    > energy use etc...

    They claim "no electrical consumption for cooling", as the unit has no compressor. I suppose there needs to be some small pump to make it work, but I think it's safe to say it uses barely any electricity at all, which is why this product is innovative.

    > the geothermal heat pump looks like the winner

    Yes, if you want to invest in something right now (although, can it cool or just heat?). The coefficient of performance (or COP, e.g. units of heat out per unit of energy in) for a typical geothermal heat pump though is between 2 and 4, while ClimateWell says theirs is 333 (see http://www.climatewell.com/index.html#/innovation/climatewell10), on account of their compressor-less design.

    Sold? :)

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  6. Wow, that thing is huge! You better hold my order until I can do a room addition. (I am assuming it must be inside.)

    All kidding aside, it sounds promising. Just imagining electric free cooling makes me want to celebrate.

    Yes, geothermal heat pumps cool. Unfortunately our ground temps here in Texas aren't as cool as I would like, but it still works well from what I have read.

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